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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

I've never seen him play one fwiw. Going off on a tangent here - Anyone see the REAL nescessity of having more than four strings on an electric bass? I don't.

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Sep 30, 2006 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

Many reasons- timbre and texture and colorings from the chords- more range for counter melody- it is a matter of waht you want to do musically- It is like asking "Why have two drummers"? - Or why have three guitarists besides the bass? (Outlaws, Frank Zappa's bands at times, Widespread Panic)

It is about the picture you are painting- you can use an 8 color box of crayons or 64 or 128- all can produce great results- There are movies made today purposefully in black and white.....why do that if you have color? B and W films provide a certain aura and evoke certain emotions- as well as the playing of light and shadow you just do not get with color film- many photographers shoot black and white film still

SO yeah- many reasons for more than 4 strings- I have seen 8 string bass used by Tony Levin of King Crimson and many other bands he was in- I have seen a 10 string bass used by the bas player with King Crimson in 1995

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Poster: BassTone Date: Sep 29, 2006 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

Might be more information than you want, but you asked so here goes . . .

Some players play 5- and 6-string basses to get access to higher and/or lower tones. But the other reason is to be able to play a particular tone on a different place in the neck in order to get a different timbre.

For example, on a 4-string bass the lowest tone is the E played open (unfretted) on the lowest string. You can play this same tone on a 5-string bass on its 5th fret. The open string and the fretted string have entirely different timbres, plus the B string that you're playing the E note is a much thicker string also giving it a different sound.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Oct 3, 2006 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Question for 6 string Bassists

BassTone: good to see an informed opinion

do most 6 string bassists tune the high string to a C in keeping with the perfect fourth intervals of all the strings, or a B which one would think to be the preferred choice for bassists that use the guitar as their "piano"?

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Poster: BassTone Date: Oct 7, 2006 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Question for 6 string Bassists

My sense is that most 6-string players will tune the highest string to a C. BTW, 5-string players generally have a lower string than the conventional E and tune that to B as well

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

Regarding the six-string bass I'd say it depends largely on whether you want to be a part of the rhythm section or a low-strung joint-lead guitarist (step forward, Uncle Phil...)

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

Nah, I don't buy it because Phil was playing with four strings during 69-74 inarguably their most experimental mind blowing peak.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

You have a point - the guys were on fire in that period. However, I don't think there was such a thing as a six-string bass until Ken Smith and Alembic (a Dead connection there I believe) started producing them in the mid-1970s. And it seems maybe, and I'm winging it here admittedly, Phil was an early adopter.

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Poster: cush11 Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

I read in an interview a long time ago that Phil wanted six strings so he could play chords...

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 29, 2006 12:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12-string Jerry

ok, that might explain it.